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Post  Hades on Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:31 pm

We gotta vote on who we want for the head of the advisory board, so we need to make rules for this and this is what I think we should do:

Each user (HoG council heads could do this but for now we use advisory) nominate a user each (they can nominate no one if they like) and then the advisors vote on who they want as the head of the board. I also think this should rotate every 6 month's.

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Re: Unlocked here for advisors plus stuff we gotta do

Post  FieldMarshall on Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:57 pm

I nominate Hades.

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Post  Hades on Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:00 pm

FieldMarshall wrote:I nominate Hades.

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I nominate Yankee Wink sorry fieldmarshall, but he has worked in HoR alot longer Wink

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Re: Unlocked here for advisors plus stuff we gotta do

Post  .Yankee. on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:29 pm

What the hell are you talking about? There is no head. That was the whole idea of HoG -.- There is no ultimate head position...

Every clan leader is an Admin. Every clan leader along with the clan's Advisory Board make up the HoG Council. We agreed on this system ages ago. Why do you suddenly want a "leader" of HoG? -.-

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Post  Hades on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:32 pm

Do you not remember the inclusion of a head of the HoG advisory board? It was never rejected so it made its way here.... Check the old discussions

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Re: Unlocked here for advisors plus stuff we gotta do

Post  .Yankee. on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:35 pm

There was no discussion on that. We changed to the idea of each clan having equal power so this forum doesn't turn into UCA. Oh, and by the way. You should first make a vote to enforce your new rule before just voting on who is head. We never agreed to this.

The idea was for every clan to have equal rights. I am not agreeing to a single head of the board because the heads are the admins a.k.a. clan leaders.

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Post  Hades on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:37 pm

The supposed head never gained more power, just the duty of managing ideas of where to expand to next, perhaps my mind serves me incorrectly but we could specialise advisory members into such roles instead.

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Post  .Yankee. on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:46 pm

"Duty of managing ideas of where to expand next"?

That is the job of every individual clan advisory member. Not just the heads or leaders. Otherwise, I would never have been allowed to make a new rank in HoR. The HoG board does not need a single person to overlook everything. Each member can "manage" his own ideas to add to the council to be voted on.

I say keep the equal power. No need for just one person to overlook things, even if it is for "only" 6 months. As a council, I am sure we can manage the pool of ideas and reforms in our individual clans as well as any HoG affairs.

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Post  Hades on Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:53 pm

I mean keep equal power but have some users specialised into looking at certain parts of the group, the vote would still come down to the whole board.

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Post  .Yankee. on Thu Aug 09, 2012 12:02 am

Specialised in what? Coming up with specific ideas? Each council member is free to recommend or come up with his/her own petition for the HoG Union where it is voted on. In fact, each member of every clan can go to any advisor with an idea. There will be more individual clan affairs so each advisor is contributing more to his/her individual clan, which in that case is his/her specified area, because a HoR Advisor and a HoW only work with eachother during HoG affairs. There, you have your special groups. They are already there. The special groups are the clans. There is no need for one clan leader to have some kind of higher responsibility than the others.

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Post  Mittyho on Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:48 am

Having one person as head and overlooking every clan probably isn't a good idea. Take for example if Yankee becomes this person, or FieldMarshall does - Yankee won't have a clue with matters concerning BF3, and FieldMarshall won't have a clue regarding matters with roleplaying on Age of Mythology. It's best just to have an equal board who have no power over any clan other than their own.

I should imagine there is no need for one person to focus on expanding, as I assume the entire advisory board acting out this role will be more effective than just one person. That being said, if there is a head of the Advisory Board, they'll be more of a figurehead than anything else with no real use/power above anyone else.
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Re: Unlocked here for advisors plus stuff we gotta do

Post  FieldMarshall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:19 am

FieldMarshall won't have a clue regarding matters with roleplaying on Age of Mythology.

:O i play AoM! Razz

Anyway, i think that there would be benefits and drawbacks to having one leader - whoever it is will be responsoble for much and we would need a system in place in case they go away for a period of time.

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Post  Hades on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:20 am

You don't play AoM online ;-)

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Post  FieldMarshall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:23 am

Hades wrote:You don't play AoM online ;-)

I wish. tongue

How am i the only person with forum rep? How do you get forum rep? Shocked

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Post  .Yankee. on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:25 am

Thanks for the support. I am glad that I am not the only one who disagrees. I was beginning to worry that this was already decided without my knowledge. Equal rights, that is the best policy we could have for such a forum.

Let me put it this way (This is how we discussed it on the HoR forum):

Every clan of the HoG Union is a clan of equal power. Each clan has an advisory including the clan leader(s) to settle their internal matters. That is their main job. That is what the clan advisory specializes in; their own clan's issues.

Now because this is a union of clans, each individual clan advisory would come together to make HoG-related decisions. Topics like HoW ranks or HoR enemies has nothing to do in that area. Game supporting, advertising, general HoG affairs and other unions is what the individual clan advisories would come together to discuss. The HoG section is also for the whole forum to talk about games etc.

The issue of management is already solved. The advisories do not influence each other in individual clan matters. The HoR advisory does not need to be informed of HoW reforms. Why should they? It is not relevant for them. They can, however, visit the HoW section of the forum and see what changed if they are interested. That way, the HoR advisory focuses on HoR matters and the HoW advisory specializes in HoW affairs. They do, however, come together to discuss HoG-related affairs. Such as this Wink

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Post  Hades on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:27 am

Do you see the +/- next to people's comments? That adds/ decreases rep Wink

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Post  .Yankee. on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:28 am

I don't really think its necessary, but hey, if it makes people feel better. xD

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Post  FieldMarshall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:31 am

Hades wrote:Do you see the +/- next to people's comments? That adds/ decreases rep Wink

Never even noticed that till now but thanks for clearing that up Razz

Who voted my comment up? Razz

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Post  Hades on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:31 am

Yankee wrote:I don't really think its necessary, but hey, if it makes people feel better. xD

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Post  Hades on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:32 am

FieldMarshall wrote:
Hades wrote:Do you see the +/- next to people's comments? That adds/ decreases rep Wink

Never even noticed that till now but thanks for clearing that up Razz

Who voted my comment up? Razz

Who'd ya think? XD

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Post  FieldMarshall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:33 am

Hades wrote:
Yankee wrote:I don't really think its necessary, but hey, if it makes people feel better. xD

}Very Happy
Enjoy your spiral into depression!

Noooo! Razz

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Post  Hades on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:34 am

I'm on my phone so that's hard xD

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Post  FieldMarshall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:36 am

Hades wrote:I'm on my phone so that's hard xD

Same here! Razz

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Post  .Yankee. on Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:48 am

Hades wrote:
Yankee wrote:I don't really think its necessary, but hey, if it makes people feel better. xD

}Very Happy
Enjoy your spiral into depression!

And already the Rep point system is being abused. I never understood the point of it though. Its to show that the comment was good? Its comparable to a facebook like? 11

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Post  FieldMarshall on Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:06 am

It's gone! My moment of glory, dashed. tongue

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